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Author:  JJ Donohue [ Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:35 am ]
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I've been getting to my current build using Michael's SJ plans and they are the absolute best I've ever followed. There is virtually nothing left to the imagination! Not to say that I've followed it exactly, but for a new builder they are a great way to get started.

3 huge prints adorn the walls in my shop with every detail so clearly drawn and dimensions galore with appropriate notes.

We're lucky to have Michael in our forum brotherhood and I just wanted to take the time to thank him for his generosity in making them available to the OLFers.

I highly recommend any plan that comes from this master CAD jockey...Thanks, Michael.

Author:  ATaylor [ Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:35 am ]
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I agree also. Laid them out on my living room floor when I got them and just stared for an hour. Very nicely done.

These questions might have been asked before - what are the strong points of this SJ design? What wood have people built it with? What's the strengths drawbacks of the ladder vs. X braced back?

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:47 pm ]
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Ya'll are makin mee blush I am glad you like them. More to come this spring. It has been a really busy year this year in the Old Oil Patch. I am bit behind on both build and drawing projects, but the next set will be John's jumbo parlor. I will get started on it as soon as Johns' plans arrive. Wich sould be soon, now they have been found.

To answer Andy's question on strong points of the SJ; I find the SJ to be very much like a GC but with a more pleasing shape and a bit more punch. I have built a total of four SJ's by the plans. The first was a Quilted Maple bs/BC Sitka top for my grandaughter, very bright very load for a smaller body if you can call an SJ a small body. The second was an IRW bs/WRC top for a client. It was the first SJ with the X-braced back. For you old timers at the fourm, number three will be no suprise coming from me! It was my favorite finger style tonewood combo, IRW bs/curly Koa top. I love this combo both bright and warm, more mid tone dominate but still plenty of clear distint highs and a warm bass that that you feel in you chest like a good shot of wiskey. It was the first with my new star-back brace...Yes I have made a change on the my more resent SJ back x-braces. On sj's and Dread's they are now more of a star (six point). As most of you know, I brace fairly light on smaller body guitars. I like to make them really resonant, and believe by keeping the individual braceing light but by relocating for best structural support and moving the axis of the back braces I think I have a more active reflector with just a little rebound in it. I have not done any real testing to prove this. Just going by what is ear pleasing to me. Anyway on the SJ I would suggest that if you go with the x-Brace that you consider adding the extra strut to make the star. Just split the spread on the x with that addional strut. The SJ has such a near round bottom that a simple x was probably not the best plan. In fact, it was a direct adaptaion from my OM's x-brace and the angle of the x spread was probably a bit loose for the SJ. Structurally the X is ok by but I believe if you are going to folllow my light bracing the star is the best.

Thanks again guys, I am tickled pink you like the plans.
By the way I always end my posts on this specific topic with an invitation. Here it is!! Lance and I started the Library of plans with the intention tha any member that has a plan they would like to share could submit it. So come on guys lets see some of your plans!

You know the great library of Alexandria was not filled with books from only one source.MichaelP38760.9846875

Author:  Serge Poirier [ Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:56 pm ]
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The way that Alan and Hesh described their experiences has me jealous and envious, must feel like Christmas time when you get'em beautiful plans by the mail han?

My turn will come! Yeah you know Bear, your turn will come

Author:  old man [ Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:56 pm ]
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Hesh, beautiful binding on that headstock. Is the fingerboard bound? Can't see in the photos.

Ron

Author:  Serge Poirier [ Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:00 pm ]
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Now that's what i call a geeeeeetaaaaaaar!

She's just awesome Hesh!


Author:  ATaylor [ Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:44 pm ]
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That is one sweeeet looking guitar Hesh. Man, can't wait to get going on mine! If it can be 1/2 as nice looking...

Author:  LanceK [ Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:07 am ]
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Hesh, that headstock is fantastic! I love the name on it!

Did you do the pictures your self? There very good!

Author:  Scott Thompson [ Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:57 am ]
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[QUOTE=MichaelP]
On sj's and Dread's they are now more of a star (six point).... Anyway on the SJ I would suggest that if you go with the x-Brace that you consider adding the extra strut to make the star. Just split the spread on the x with that addional strut.
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Michael, do you have any photo expamples of this?

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:48 am ]
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No but I will post a drawing. really all I did was add a finger on each side of the x apex deviding the the large angle of the X by half. I made the just like a finger but the same thickness and height as the X and tucked them into the X. you really don't need to tuck if you don't want to.



Oh yes, I also made the X 90 deg vs the the original 110DegMichaelP38761.6607175926

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